Ability to use object store for images #1490

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Originally created by @jpds on GitHub (Jan 9, 2018).

Originally assigned to: @steffann on GitHub.

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  • NetBox version: v2.2.9

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I'm running Netbox in a Kubernetes cluster. It currently runs as a single container as I have a block device mounted into the container so that there's persistent storage for the image attachments which were introduced in #152.

This works OK, but I cannot run multiple instances of netbox in a clustered fashion as it's tied to the block device.

Could there be some integration with https://github.com/jschneier/django-storages so that S3 can be used as a backend for the image attachments?

Originally created by @jpds on GitHub (Jan 9, 2018). Originally assigned to: @steffann on GitHub. ### Issue type [x] Feature request <!-- An enhancement of existing functionality --> [ ] Bug report <!-- Unexpected or erroneous behavior --> [ ] Documentation <!-- A modification to the documentation --> ### Environment * NetBox version: v2.2.9 ### Description I'm running Netbox in a Kubernetes cluster. It currently runs as a single container as I have a block device mounted into the container so that there's persistent storage for the image attachments which were introduced in #152. This works OK, but I cannot run multiple instances of netbox in a clustered fashion as it's tied to the block device. Could there be some integration with https://github.com/jschneier/django-storages so that S3 can be used as a backend for the image attachments?
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@jeremystretch commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2018):

Per the discussion in PR #2466, the configuration scheme for this needs to be fleshed out. While I don't have a strong preference, whatever solution we decide on must be platform- and vendor-agnostic, and easily extendable to accommodate similar services.

@jeremystretch commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2018): Per the discussion in PR #2466, the configuration scheme for this needs to be fleshed out. While I don't have a strong preference, whatever solution we decide on must be platform- and vendor-agnostic, and easily extendable to accommodate similar services.
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@nward commented on GitHub (Apr 22, 2019):

Hi, I've been directed here from #3095 - thanks for that @jeremystretch.

I have implemented something as a PoC for this.
Additionally, I implemented a way to optionally load another application for display. "django-storages" doesn't require this, as it directs the user for the application to a direct download URL. This has the effect that images are not behind the NetBox access control anymore. Writing an application for this would allow an administrator to use S3/etc. for only storage, not for serving the files.

For the configuration, I toyed with several approaches:

  1. Have configuration for all the various options (S3_* etc.). This doesn't work, as in NetBox we have only specific settings passed through from configuration.py to settings.py, and we would need settings.py to support every possible option - doesn't really fly.
  2. Have a dictionary defined in configuration.py which the "external" applications, storage classes etc. can use for settings. This requires that these applications, storage classes etc. are written custom for NetBox (or at the very least, with NetBox support). This is not untenable as potentially some sort of wrapper classes could be written but it's not ideal.
  3. Have a dictionary defined in configuration.py which NetBox's settings.py takes and translates in to settings.py parameters.
  4. Have settings in configuration.py which are found by settings.py with a prefix, and then the prefix stripped off and defined as settings.py parameters. This is OK, but a bit clunky and hard to read.

In my implementation, I opted for (3) which I found this to be a good balance between (1) and (2). It has some things I'd like to improve. Primarily reduce or eliminate the ability for a configuration parameter to be named the same as an existing NetBox parameter and override it - perhaps it needs to scan a list of known settings used by NetBox and error if the administrator attempts to pass them in this dictionary. That seems fairly easy to implement.

Perhaps (3) and (2) at the same time would be a good option - "NetBox Native" storage systems and applications could use (2) while existing systems (django-storages, etc.) could use (3).

@nward commented on GitHub (Apr 22, 2019): Hi, I've been directed here from #3095 - thanks for that @jeremystretch. I have implemented something as a PoC for this. Additionally, I implemented a way to optionally load another application for display. "django-storages" doesn't require this, as it directs the user for the application to a direct download URL. This has the effect that images are not behind the NetBox access control anymore. Writing an application for this would allow an administrator to use S3/etc. for only storage, not for serving the files. For the configuration, I toyed with several approaches: 1. Have configuration for all the various options (S3_* etc.). This doesn't work, as in NetBox we have only specific settings passed through from configuration.py to settings.py, and we would need settings.py to support every possible option - doesn't really fly. 2. Have a dictionary defined in configuration.py which the "external" applications, storage classes etc. can use for settings. This requires that these applications, storage classes etc. are written custom for NetBox (or at the very least, with NetBox support). This is not untenable as potentially some sort of wrapper classes could be written but it's not ideal. 3. Have a dictionary defined in configuration.py which NetBox's settings.py takes and translates in to settings.py parameters. 4. Have settings in configuration.py which are found by settings.py with a prefix, and then the prefix stripped off and defined as settings.py parameters. This is OK, but a bit clunky and hard to read. In my implementation, I opted for (3) which I found this to be a good balance between (1) and (2). It has some things I'd like to improve. Primarily reduce or eliminate the ability for a configuration parameter to be named the same as an existing NetBox parameter and override it - perhaps it needs to scan a list of known settings used by NetBox and error if the administrator attempts to pass them in this dictionary. That seems fairly easy to implement. Perhaps (3) and (2) at the same time would be a good option - "NetBox Native" storage systems and applications could use (2) while existing systems (django-storages, etc.) could use (3).
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@chaomodus commented on GitHub (Jun 24, 2019):

Note I have very simply implemented the above option 3 for our use since we need to use a Swift back-end to save images (and there are numerous configuration settings that have to be imported) in case anyone is interested.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/software/netbox/+/518785

@chaomodus commented on GitHub (Jun 24, 2019): Note I have very simply implemented the above option 3 for our use since we need to use a Swift back-end to save images (and there are numerous configuration settings that have to be imported) in case anyone is interested. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/software/netbox/+/518785
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@steffann commented on GitHub (Nov 3, 2019):

I'd be happy to take this issue.

Because of the separation between settings.py and configuration.py I suggest to abstract the implementation from the configuration and start with the most common one: AWS S3 and compatible.

The configuration could look like this:

MEDIA_STORAGE = {
  'BACKEND': 'S3',
  'ACCESS_KEY_ID': 'Secret',
  'SECRET_ACCESS_KEY': 'Secret',
  'REGION_NAME': 'eu-west-1',
  'ENDPOINT_URL': 'https://example/',
  'BUCKET_NAME': 'netbox',
  'DEFAULT_ACL': 'public-read',
}

For the implementation I suggest adding django-storages as a dependency when the S3 back-end is used.

Any objections to this approach?

@steffann commented on GitHub (Nov 3, 2019): I'd be happy to take this issue. Because of the separation between `settings.py` and `configuration.py` I suggest to abstract the implementation from the configuration and start with the most common one: AWS S3 and compatible. The configuration could look like this: ``` MEDIA_STORAGE = { 'BACKEND': 'S3', 'ACCESS_KEY_ID': 'Secret', 'SECRET_ACCESS_KEY': 'Secret', 'REGION_NAME': 'eu-west-1', 'ENDPOINT_URL': 'https://example/', 'BUCKET_NAME': 'netbox', 'DEFAULT_ACL': 'public-read', } ``` For the implementation I suggest adding `django-storages` as a dependency when the S3 back-end is used. Any objections to this approach?
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@nward commented on GitHub (Nov 3, 2019):

Hi @steffann ,

In my scenario, S3 is not appropriate, so I don't think it should be the only option.

I understand that Django-storages has various backends, however, none were suitable for my environment or tool set.

I implemented a similar configuration system to you because of the configuration/settings.py split, however, it allows any storage system to be used through an additional application. I encourage you to have a look at it, before going ahead with other solutions:
https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox/issues/3095

Django-storages could be implemented through this interface I believe, and it would allow any storage system to be used.

Personally, I implemented a storage layer which uses postgres - which is of course not a good idea for many people as has been noted in a number of other discussions, however, for my environment this is the right choice right now for a number of reasons. I think giving people the ability to choose what they do here is best. I think it would be good to include "here's how to use django-storages to get S3/whatever" as a good "default" though.

@nward commented on GitHub (Nov 3, 2019): Hi @steffann , In my scenario, S3 is not appropriate, so I don't think it should be the only option. I understand that Django-storages has various backends, however, none were suitable for my environment or tool set. I implemented a similar configuration system to you because of the configuration/settings.py split, however, it allows any storage system to be used through an additional application. I encourage you to have a look at it, before going ahead with other solutions: https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox/issues/3095 Django-storages could be implemented through this interface I believe, and it would allow any storage system to be used. Personally, I implemented a storage layer which uses postgres - which is of course not a good idea for many people as has been noted in a number of other discussions, however, for my environment this is the right choice right now for a number of reasons. I think giving people the ability to choose what they do here is best. I think it would be good to include "here's how to use django-storages to get S3/whatever" as a good "default" though.
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@steffann commented on GitHub (Nov 4, 2019):

Hi @nward,

I completely understand. Based on the existing code I have the feeling that @jeremystretch prefers explicit support and configuration though. I'll leave it up to him to decide whether "officially supported options with corresponding configuration" or "flexibility to use anything you want with less clearly defined configuration boundaries" is the way forward.

Cheers,
Sander

@steffann commented on GitHub (Nov 4, 2019): Hi @nward, I completely understand. Based on the existing code I have the feeling that @jeremystretch prefers explicit support and configuration though. I'll leave it up to him to decide whether "officially supported options with corresponding configuration" or "flexibility to use anything you want with less clearly defined configuration boundaries" is the way forward. Cheers, Sander
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@nward commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2019):

Hi @steffann I think my solution is a good compromise between both those extremes. The defaults can implement officially supported options, while still allowing people to use alternative options.

(Sorry, though I had replied to this back in Nov!)

@nward commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2019): Hi @steffann I think my solution is a good compromise between both those extremes. The defaults can implement officially supported options, while still allowing people to use alternative options. (Sorry, though I had replied to this back in Nov!)
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@steffann commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2019):

@nward I did see it back in November but got confused with all the proposed solutions. Yours does indeed look like a good middle ground!

Because it took me a while to find it, here is the link for others to help evaluate it: 074ace626f

I haven't tested it yet, but it does look well designed.

@steffann commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2019): @nward I did see it back in November but got confused with all the proposed solutions. Yours does indeed look like a good middle ground! Because it took me a while to find it, here is the link for others to help evaluate it: https://github.com/SearchLightNZ/netbox/commit/074ace626fd7fc4a2c36df6b34d7e37de358885b I haven't tested it yet, but it does look well designed.
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@jeremystretch commented on GitHub (Dec 9, 2019):

@steffann I've taken some more time to dig into this. I have to say that maintaining a barrage of settings specific to each storage backend within NetBox isn't realistic. Even if we were to only support S3 (which IMO is underwhelming), it would require NetBox to essentially sync with the development of django-storages, which isn't a burden I'm willing to accept on behalf of the other maintainers.

Based on the existing code I have the feeling that @jeremystretch prefers explicit support and configuration though.

This is correct: We should avoid opening an avenue for users to import unsanitized settings for various reasons.

I recommend a more lean approach, where we introduce support for the optional use of django-storages, but completely offload the configuration details into a single opaque setting. We can expose two NetBox configuration parameters:

  • STORAGE_BACKEND - A wrapper around Django's built-in DEFAULT_FILE_STORAGE setting, used to indicate the specific file storage mechanism
  • STORAGE_CONFIG - An arbitrary dictionary of settings to be passed to the storage backend

In the case of django-storages, which I imagine is what most users will use, we can monkey patch its utils.setting getter to first look for keys inside settings.STORAGE_CONFIG (and fall back to settings if the key is not found). Something like this:

if STORAGE_BACKEND is not None:

    import storages

    def _setting(name, default=None):
        if name in settings.STORAGE_CONFIG:
            return getattr(settings.STORAGE_CONFIG, name, default)
        return getattr(settings, name, default)
    
    storages.utils.setting = _setting

This would allow the user complete control over configuring the storage engine, while still keeping the global NetBox configuration gated.

I will also note that I'd prefer to avoid making django-storages a required dependency, as it would pull in each of its supported backends. It would probably be sufficient to simply require django-storages if STORAGE_BACKEND is defined.

@jeremystretch commented on GitHub (Dec 9, 2019): @steffann I've taken some more time to dig into this. I have to say that maintaining a barrage of settings specific to each storage backend within NetBox isn't realistic. Even if we were to only support S3 (which IMO is underwhelming), it would require NetBox to essentially sync with the development of `django-storages`, which isn't a burden I'm willing to accept on behalf of the other maintainers. > Based on the existing code I have the feeling that @jeremystretch prefers explicit support and configuration though. This is correct: We should avoid opening an avenue for users to import unsanitized settings for various reasons. I recommend a more lean approach, where we introduce support for the optional use of `django-storages`, but completely offload the configuration details into a single opaque setting. We can expose two NetBox configuration parameters: * `STORAGE_BACKEND` - A wrapper around Django's built-in `DEFAULT_FILE_STORAGE` setting, used to indicate the specific file storage mechanism * `STORAGE_CONFIG` - An arbitrary dictionary of settings to be passed to the storage backend In the case of `django-storages`, which I imagine is what most users will use, we can monkey patch its [`utils.setting`](https://github.com/jschneier/django-storages/blob/master/storages/utils.py#L11) getter to first look for keys inside `settings.STORAGE_CONFIG` (and fall back to `settings` if the key is not found). Something like this: ```python if STORAGE_BACKEND is not None: import storages def _setting(name, default=None): if name in settings.STORAGE_CONFIG: return getattr(settings.STORAGE_CONFIG, name, default) return getattr(settings, name, default) storages.utils.setting = _setting ``` This would allow the user complete control over configuring the storage engine, while still keeping the global NetBox configuration gated. I will also note that I'd prefer to avoid making `django-storages` a required dependency, as it would pull in each of its supported backends. It would probably be sufficient to simply require `django-storages` if `STORAGE_BACKEND` is defined.
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@steffann commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2019):

That was actually a lot easier than expected. Simple solutions FTW!

https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox/pull/3666 has been rebased to develop2.7, and the new implementation is ready for merge.

@steffann commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2019): That was actually a lot easier than expected. Simple solutions FTW! https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox/pull/3666 has been rebased to develop2.7, and the new implementation is ready for merge.
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