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[BUG]: Cmder will not enter into layout #699

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Originally created by @Thaddeus-Maximus on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025).

Summary

Just installed Komorebi. Working great other than this - cmder won't enter into the layout. Komorebi doesn't even seem to notice that the window has focus. See attached screenshot.

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Version Information

λ systeminfo | findstr /B /C:"OS Name" /B /C:"OS Version"
OS Name: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
OS Version: 10.0.19045 N/A Build 19045

λ komorebic --version
komorebic 0.1.38
tag:v0.1.38
commit_hash:ffa76ea2
build_time:2025-09-13 18:40:25 +00:00
build_env:rustc 1.89.0 (29483883e 2025-08-04),stable-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc

Komorebi Configuration

{
  "$schema": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi/v0.1.38/schema.json",
  "app_specific_configuration_path": "$Env:USERPROFILE/applications.json",
  "window_hiding_behaviour": "Cloak",
  "cross_monitor_move_behaviour": "Insert",
  "default_workspace_padding": 3,
  "default_container_padding": 3,
  "border": false,
  "border_width": 8,
  "border_offset": -1,
  "theme": {
    "palette": "Base16",
    "name": "GruvboxDarkSoft",
    "unfocused_border": "Base03",
    "bar_accent": "Base0C"
  },
  "monitors": [
    {
      "workspaces": [
        {
          "name": "1",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "2",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "3",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "4",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "5",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "6",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "7",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "8",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        },
        {
          "name": "9",
          "layout": "VerticalStack"
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
}

Hotkey Configuration

.shell powershell

Reload whkd configuration

alt + o : taskkill /f /im whkd.exe && start /b whkd # if shell is cmd

alt + q : taskkill /f /im whkd.exe; Start-Process whkd -WindowStyle hidden # if shell is pwsh / powershell
alt + shift + o : komorebic reload-configuration

alt + i : komorebic toggle-shortcuts

App shortcuts - these require shell to be pwsh / powershell

The apps will be focused if open, or launched if not open

alt + f : if ($wshell.AppActivate('Firefox') -eq $False) { start firefox }

alt + b : if ($wshell.AppActivate('Chrome') -eq $False) { start chrome }

alt + q : komorebic close
alt + m : komorebic minimize

Focus windows

alt + left : komorebic focus left
alt + down : komorebic focus down
alt + up : komorebic focus up
alt + right : komorebic focus right
#alt + shift + oem_4 : komorebic cycle-focus previous # oem_4 is [
#alt + shift + oem_6 : komorebic cycle-focus next # oem_6 is ]

Move windows

alt + shift + left : komorebic move left
alt + shift + down : komorebic move down
alt + shift + up : komorebic move up
alt + shift + right : komorebic move right
alt + return : komorebic promote

Stack windows

#alt + left : komorebic stack left
#alt + down : komorebic stack down
#alt + up : komorebic stack up
#alt + right : komorebic stack right
#alt + oem_1 : komorebic unstack # oem_1 is ;
#alt + oem_4 : komorebic cycle-stack previous # oem_4 is [
#alt + oem_6 : komorebic cycle-stack next # oem_6 is ]

Resize

alt + l : komorebic resize-axis horizontal increase
alt + h : komorebic resize-axis horizontal decrease
#alt + shift + oem_plus : komorebic resize-axis vertical increase
#alt + shift + oem_minus : komorebic resize-axis vertical decrease

Manipulate windows

alt + t : komorebic toggle-float
alt + shift + f : komorebic toggle-monocle

Window manager options

alt + shift + r : komorebic retile
alt + p : komorebic toggle-pause

Layouts

alt + x : komorebic flip-layout horizontal
alt + y : komorebic flip-layout vertical

Workspaces

alt + 1 : komorebic focus-workspace 0
alt + 2 : komorebic focus-workspace 1
alt + 3 : komorebic focus-workspace 2
alt + 4 : komorebic focus-workspace 3
alt + 5 : komorebic focus-workspace 4
alt + 6 : komorebic focus-workspace 5
alt + 7 : komorebic focus-workspace 6
alt + 8 : komorebic focus-workspace 7
alt + 9 : komorebic focus-workspace 8

Move windows across workspaces

alt + shift + 1 : komorebic move-to-workspace 0
alt + shift + 2 : komorebic move-to-workspace 1
alt + shift + 3 : komorebic move-to-workspace 2
alt + shift + 4 : komorebic move-to-workspace 3
alt + shift + 5 : komorebic move-to-workspace 4
alt + shift + 6 : komorebic move-to-workspace 5
alt + shift + 7 : komorebic move-to-workspace 6
alt + shift + 8 : komorebic move-to-workspace 7
alt + shift + 9 : komorebic move-to-workspace 8

Output of komorebic check

λ komorebic check
No KOMOREBI_CONFIG_HOME detected, defaulting to C:\Users\Thad

Looking for configuration files in C:\Users\Thad

Found komorebi.json; this file can be passed to the start command with the --config flag

Found C:\Users\Thad.config\whkdrc; key bindings will be loaded from here when whkd is started, and you can start it automatically using the --whkd flag

Originally created by @Thaddeus-Maximus on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025). ### Summary Just installed Komorebi. Working great other than this - cmder won't enter into the layout. Komorebi doesn't even seem to notice that the window has focus. See attached screenshot. <img width="2556" height="1315" alt="Image" src="https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/0c817b10-593d-4322-b7ea-3e20e149bc3c" /> ### Version Information λ systeminfo | findstr /B /C:"OS Name" /B /C:"OS Version" OS Name: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OS Version: 10.0.19045 N/A Build 19045 λ komorebic --version komorebic 0.1.38 tag:v0.1.38 commit_hash:ffa76ea2 build_time:2025-09-13 18:40:25 +00:00 build_env:rustc 1.89.0 (29483883e 2025-08-04),stable-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc ### Komorebi Configuration ```json { "$schema": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi/v0.1.38/schema.json", "app_specific_configuration_path": "$Env:USERPROFILE/applications.json", "window_hiding_behaviour": "Cloak", "cross_monitor_move_behaviour": "Insert", "default_workspace_padding": 3, "default_container_padding": 3, "border": false, "border_width": 8, "border_offset": -1, "theme": { "palette": "Base16", "name": "GruvboxDarkSoft", "unfocused_border": "Base03", "bar_accent": "Base0C" }, "monitors": [ { "workspaces": [ { "name": "1", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "2", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "3", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "4", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "5", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "6", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "7", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "8", "layout": "VerticalStack" }, { "name": "9", "layout": "VerticalStack" } ] } ] } ``` ### Hotkey Configuration .shell powershell # Reload whkd configuration # alt + o : taskkill /f /im whkd.exe && start /b whkd # if shell is cmd alt + q : taskkill /f /im whkd.exe; Start-Process whkd -WindowStyle hidden # if shell is pwsh / powershell alt + shift + o : komorebic reload-configuration alt + i : komorebic toggle-shortcuts # App shortcuts - these require shell to be pwsh / powershell # The apps will be focused if open, or launched if not open # alt + f : if ($wshell.AppActivate('Firefox') -eq $False) { start firefox } # alt + b : if ($wshell.AppActivate('Chrome') -eq $False) { start chrome } alt + q : komorebic close alt + m : komorebic minimize # Focus windows alt + left : komorebic focus left alt + down : komorebic focus down alt + up : komorebic focus up alt + right : komorebic focus right #alt + shift + oem_4 : komorebic cycle-focus previous # oem_4 is [ #alt + shift + oem_6 : komorebic cycle-focus next # oem_6 is ] # Move windows alt + shift + left : komorebic move left alt + shift + down : komorebic move down alt + shift + up : komorebic move up alt + shift + right : komorebic move right alt + return : komorebic promote # Stack windows #alt + left : komorebic stack left #alt + down : komorebic stack down #alt + up : komorebic stack up #alt + right : komorebic stack right #alt + oem_1 : komorebic unstack # oem_1 is ; #alt + oem_4 : komorebic cycle-stack previous # oem_4 is [ #alt + oem_6 : komorebic cycle-stack next # oem_6 is ] # Resize alt + l : komorebic resize-axis horizontal increase alt + h : komorebic resize-axis horizontal decrease #alt + shift + oem_plus : komorebic resize-axis vertical increase #alt + shift + oem_minus : komorebic resize-axis vertical decrease # Manipulate windows alt + t : komorebic toggle-float alt + shift + f : komorebic toggle-monocle # Window manager options alt + shift + r : komorebic retile alt + p : komorebic toggle-pause # Layouts alt + x : komorebic flip-layout horizontal alt + y : komorebic flip-layout vertical # Workspaces alt + 1 : komorebic focus-workspace 0 alt + 2 : komorebic focus-workspace 1 alt + 3 : komorebic focus-workspace 2 alt + 4 : komorebic focus-workspace 3 alt + 5 : komorebic focus-workspace 4 alt + 6 : komorebic focus-workspace 5 alt + 7 : komorebic focus-workspace 6 alt + 8 : komorebic focus-workspace 7 alt + 9 : komorebic focus-workspace 8 # Move windows across workspaces alt + shift + 1 : komorebic move-to-workspace 0 alt + shift + 2 : komorebic move-to-workspace 1 alt + shift + 3 : komorebic move-to-workspace 2 alt + shift + 4 : komorebic move-to-workspace 3 alt + shift + 5 : komorebic move-to-workspace 4 alt + shift + 6 : komorebic move-to-workspace 5 alt + shift + 7 : komorebic move-to-workspace 6 alt + shift + 8 : komorebic move-to-workspace 7 alt + shift + 9 : komorebic move-to-workspace 8 ### Output of komorebic check λ komorebic check No KOMOREBI_CONFIG_HOME detected, defaulting to C:\Users\Thad Looking for configuration files in C:\Users\Thad Found komorebi.json; this file can be passed to the start command with the --config flag Found C:\Users\Thad\.config\whkdrc; key bindings will be loaded from here when whkd is started, and you can start it automatically using the --whkd flag
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@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

FWIW - same with SOLIDWORKS

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@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): FWIW - same with SOLIDWORKS <img width="2560" height="1440" alt="Image" src="https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/627dc48a-7b59-40b7-bf56-3276666003d4" />
adam commented 2026-01-05 14:52:27 +01:00
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@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

As suggested in another issue, I tried running komorebi as admin - same behavior.
Happy to try anything as far as custom configs or rules, could just use some pointing in the right direction.

@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): As suggested in another issue, I tried running komorebi as admin - same behavior. Happy to try anything as far as custom configs or rules, could just use some pointing in the right direction.
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@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

I am just guessing, but I know that some apps will not get managed if they are transparent (some discord client). What happens if you turn off transparency for cmder?

You can also check if the app is un-managed on purpose by using the komorebi-gui command and in the app you can see details under the Debugging option. Some apps just don't behave nicely when being managed, like Microsoft Teams.

@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): I am just guessing, but I know that some apps will not get managed if they are transparent (some discord client). What happens if you turn off transparency for cmder? You can also check if the app is un-managed on purpose by using the `komorebi-gui` command and in the app you can see details under the `Debugging` option. Some apps just don't behave nicely when being managed, like Microsoft Teams.
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@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

For cmder:

{
  "should_manage": false,
  "is_window": true,
  "has_minimum_width": true,
  "has_minimum_height": true,
  "has_title": true,
  "is_cloaked": false,
  "allow_cloaked": false,
  "allow_layered_transparency": false,
  "window_style": "BORDER | CAPTION | CLIPCHILDREN | CLIPSIBLINGS | GROUP | MAXIMIZEBOX | OVERLAPPEDWINDOW | VISIBLE",
  "extended_window_style": "APPWINDOW | LAYERED | WINDOWEDGE",
  "title": "Cmder",
  "exe_name": "ConEmu64.exe",
  "class": "VirtualConsoleClass",
  "path": "C:\\Program Files\\cmder\\vendor\\conemu-maximus5\\ConEmu64.exe",
  "matches_permaignore_class": null,
  "matches_ignore_identifier": null,
  "matches_managed_override": null,
  "matches_layered_whitelist": null,
  "matches_floating_applications": null,
  "matches_wsl2_gui": null,
  "matches_no_titlebar": null
}

For SOLIDWORKS:

{
  "should_manage": false,
  "is_window": true,
  "has_minimum_width": true,
  "has_minimum_height": true,
  "has_title": true,
  "is_cloaked": false,
  "allow_cloaked": false,
  "allow_layered_transparency": false,
  "window_style": "BORDER | CLIPSIBLINGS | GROUP | MAXIMIZEBOX | SIZEBOX | SYSMENU | VISIBLE",
  "extended_window_style": "ACCEPTFILES | WINDOWEDGE",
  "title": "SOLIDWORKS 2025 SP3.0",
  "exe_name": "SLDWORKS.exe",
  "class": "Afx:0000000140000000:8:0000000000010003:0000000000000000:0000000000940701",
  "path": "C:\\Program Files\\SOLIDWORKS Corp\\SOLIDWORKS\\SLDWORKS.exe",
  "matches_permaignore_class": null,
  "matches_ignore_identifier": null,
  "matches_managed_override": null,
  "matches_layered_whitelist": null,
  "matches_floating_applications": null,
  "matches_wsl2_gui": null,
  "matches_no_titlebar": null
}
@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): For cmder: ``` { "should_manage": false, "is_window": true, "has_minimum_width": true, "has_minimum_height": true, "has_title": true, "is_cloaked": false, "allow_cloaked": false, "allow_layered_transparency": false, "window_style": "BORDER | CAPTION | CLIPCHILDREN | CLIPSIBLINGS | GROUP | MAXIMIZEBOX | OVERLAPPEDWINDOW | VISIBLE", "extended_window_style": "APPWINDOW | LAYERED | WINDOWEDGE", "title": "Cmder", "exe_name": "ConEmu64.exe", "class": "VirtualConsoleClass", "path": "C:\\Program Files\\cmder\\vendor\\conemu-maximus5\\ConEmu64.exe", "matches_permaignore_class": null, "matches_ignore_identifier": null, "matches_managed_override": null, "matches_layered_whitelist": null, "matches_floating_applications": null, "matches_wsl2_gui": null, "matches_no_titlebar": null } ``` For SOLIDWORKS: ``` { "should_manage": false, "is_window": true, "has_minimum_width": true, "has_minimum_height": true, "has_title": true, "is_cloaked": false, "allow_cloaked": false, "allow_layered_transparency": false, "window_style": "BORDER | CLIPSIBLINGS | GROUP | MAXIMIZEBOX | SIZEBOX | SYSMENU | VISIBLE", "extended_window_style": "ACCEPTFILES | WINDOWEDGE", "title": "SOLIDWORKS 2025 SP3.0", "exe_name": "SLDWORKS.exe", "class": "Afx:0000000140000000:8:0000000000010003:0000000000000000:0000000000940701", "path": "C:\\Program Files\\SOLIDWORKS Corp\\SOLIDWORKS\\SLDWORKS.exe", "matches_permaignore_class": null, "matches_ignore_identifier": null, "matches_managed_override": null, "matches_layered_whitelist": null, "matches_floating_applications": null, "matches_wsl2_gui": null, "matches_no_titlebar": null } ```
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@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

Turning off transparency does fix cmder! The new output is this for cmder:

{
  "should_manage": true,
  "is_window": true,
  "has_minimum_width": true,
  "has_minimum_height": true,
  "has_title": true,
  "is_cloaked": false,
  "allow_cloaked": false,
  "allow_layered_transparency": false,
  "window_style": "BORDER | CAPTION | CLIPCHILDREN | CLIPSIBLINGS | GROUP | MAXIMIZEBOX | OVERLAPPEDWINDOW | VISIBLE",
  "extended_window_style": "APPWINDOW | WINDOWEDGE",
  "title": "Cmder",
  "exe_name": "ConEmu64.exe",
  "class": "VirtualConsoleClass",
  "path": "C:\\Program Files\\cmder\\vendor\\conemu-maximus5\\ConEmu64.exe",
  "matches_permaignore_class": null,
  "matches_ignore_identifier": null,
  "matches_managed_override": null,
  "matches_layered_whitelist": null,
  "matches_floating_applications": null,
  "matches_wsl2_gui": null,
  "matches_no_titlebar": null
}

There isn't such an option for SOLIDWORKS. That's an opaque app.

@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): Turning off transparency does fix cmder! The new output is this for cmder: ``` { "should_manage": true, "is_window": true, "has_minimum_width": true, "has_minimum_height": true, "has_title": true, "is_cloaked": false, "allow_cloaked": false, "allow_layered_transparency": false, "window_style": "BORDER | CAPTION | CLIPCHILDREN | CLIPSIBLINGS | GROUP | MAXIMIZEBOX | OVERLAPPEDWINDOW | VISIBLE", "extended_window_style": "APPWINDOW | WINDOWEDGE", "title": "Cmder", "exe_name": "ConEmu64.exe", "class": "VirtualConsoleClass", "path": "C:\\Program Files\\cmder\\vendor\\conemu-maximus5\\ConEmu64.exe", "matches_permaignore_class": null, "matches_ignore_identifier": null, "matches_managed_override": null, "matches_layered_whitelist": null, "matches_floating_applications": null, "matches_wsl2_gui": null, "matches_no_titlebar": null } ``` There isn't such an option for SOLIDWORKS. That's an opaque app.
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@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

some apps need to be managed by telling Komorebi just that

perhaps that will work for solidworks, but again, be aware that not all apps behave nicely when managed, especially if they have a complex ui.

@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): some apps need to be managed by [telling Komorebi just that](https://lgug2z.github.io/komorebi/common-workflows/force-manage-windows.html) perhaps that will work for solidworks, but again, be aware that not all apps behave nicely when managed, especially if they have a complex ui.
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@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

Got it, we're managing now - but very buggy, as it technically is window-in-window, and sometimes opens additional dialogs. See the red circle here:

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Do you have any good tips or places to start on doing more complex management?

@Thaddeus-Maximus commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): Got it, we're managing now - but very buggy, as it technically is window-in-window, and sometimes opens additional dialogs. See the red circle here: <img width="2560" height="1440" alt="Image" src="https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/df8264e1-b028-49f1-b10b-6edeca689bbe" /> Do you have any good tips or places to start on doing more complex management?
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@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

you can use ignore or floating rules such as this (perhaps composite rules would make the most sense)

    [
      {
        "kind": "Exe",
        "id": "msedgewebview2.exe",
        "matching_startegy": "Equals"
      },
      {
        "kind": "Title",
        "id": "Untitled",
        "matching_strategy": "Equals"
      }
    ],

you can use the komorebic visible-windows command to see what is being managed and come up with the rules. This might also be helpful

you can look at my config for inspiration if you want (even thought it might look a bit messy 🙂 )

@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): you can use ignore or floating rules such as this (perhaps composite rules would make the most sense) ```json [ { "kind": "Exe", "id": "msedgewebview2.exe", "matching_startegy": "Equals" }, { "kind": "Title", "id": "Untitled", "matching_strategy": "Equals" } ], ``` you can use the `komorebic visible-windows` [command](https://lgug2z.github.io/komorebi/cli/visible-windows.html) to see what is being managed and come up with the rules. [This](https://lgug2z.github.io/komorebi/common-workflows/tray-and-multi-window-applications.html) might also be helpful you can look at [my config](https://github.com/CtByte/dotfiles/blob/main/windows/komorebi/komorebi.json#L245) for inspiration if you want (even thought it might look a bit messy 🙂 )
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@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025):

also if you come up with something you are happy with, perhaps you could consider to make a PR on this project so your solution could help others too 🙂

@CtByte commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2025): also if you come up with something you are happy with, perhaps you could consider to make a [PR on this project](https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi-application-specific-configuration) so your solution could help others too 🙂
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