UI: Sort a Series by publication year if no sort sequence number present #1067

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opened 2026-04-24 23:30:58 +02:00 by adam · 8 comments
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Originally created by @Dr-Blank on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023).

Describe the feature/enhancement

By default, on the authors page and in the series page, the books are sorted by Title. The next in series is also recommended based on the title.

However, it seems the norm is to sort by year, which is also what I expected it to do by default.

Also clicking on the series takes me to the series page, but it has no option on how to sort the books, so if I do have to sort the books by year, I have to go to the library, filter by series and then sort and that are a lot of steps I believe.

Originally created by @Dr-Blank on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023). ### Describe the feature/enhancement By default, on the authors page and in the series page, the books are sorted by Title. The next in series is also recommended based on the title. However, it seems the norm is to sort by year, which is also what I expected it to do by default. Also clicking on the series takes me to the series page, but it has no option on how to sort the books, so if I do have to sort the books by year, I have to go to the library, filter by series and then sort and that are a lot of steps I believe.
adam added the enhancementsorting/filtering/searching labels 2026-04-24 23:30:58 +02:00
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@advplyr commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023):

Do you have many series that don't include series sequence?

@advplyr commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023): Do you have many series that don't include series sequence?
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@divyang-joshi commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023):

I can see a use case where I'm reading a book based on the release date (imagine reading the latest released book in the series) even though the series sequence might be something in the middle (6.5 for example). Do we just want to introduce the sortBy drop down in the bar like other pages? Could say that sort will apply to all series to keep it simple.

@divyang-joshi commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023): I can see a use case where I'm reading a book based on the release date (imagine reading the latest released book in the series) even though the series sequence might be something in the middle (6.5 for example). Do we just want to introduce the sortBy drop down in the bar like other pages? Could say that sort will apply to all series to keep it simple.
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@advplyr commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023):

I'm confused now which pages you are talking about. I thought you were talking about the covers order.
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@advplyr commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023): I'm confused now which pages you are talking about. I thought you were talking about the covers order. ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/67830747/231846505-6ca28d27-79e1-4a25-873f-c1647a60a2c1.png)
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@divyang-joshi commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023):

I assumed the actual page after clicking on that series. Being able to sort within here. Will let @Dr-Blank clear it.

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@divyang-joshi commented on GitHub (Apr 13, 2023): I assumed the actual page after clicking on that series. Being able to sort within here. Will let @Dr-Blank clear it. <img width="1151" alt="Screenshot 2023-04-13 at 3 38 53 PM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/4261609/231865595-60a39dc2-680d-41b5-be6f-d9430ab39f37.png">
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@Dr-Blank commented on GitHub (Apr 14, 2023):

I am sorry, I should have been clearer from the start.

I am talking about the series order displayed in author's section:
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the order is acc to the title. Posting this I noticed that not just the series but also all books are listed as the same.

And now clicking on the series page as @divyangbw mentioned, the order is acc to title, without any option to sort by year, just the option to collapse the series (the url being https://audiobooks/library/lib_<id>/series/ser_<id_ig>?filter=series.<somealphanum>)
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Do you have many series that don't include series sequence?

Use cases are series which are anthologies, they usually are not numbered, but if one were to follow any order, it would probably be the published date over their sort title.

edit: understood its use cases later

@Dr-Blank commented on GitHub (Apr 14, 2023): I am sorry, I should have been clearer from the start. I am talking about the series order displayed in author's section: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/64108942/231935979-fb9bf5a3-eaef-4ffc-9858-ff25fe232941.png) the order is acc to the title. Posting this I noticed that not just the series but also all books are listed as the same. And now clicking on the series page as @divyangbw mentioned, the order is acc to title, without any option to sort by year, just the option to collapse the series (the url being `https://audiobooks/library/lib_<id>/series/ser_<id_ig>?filter=series.<somealphanum>`) ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/64108942/231936604-e55c4c7b-ce31-4188-9415-536d6c058036.png) >Do you have many series that don't include series sequence? Use cases are series which are anthologies, they usually are not numbered, but if one were to follow any order, it would probably be the published date over their sort title. edit: understood its use cases later
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@thatguy7 commented on GitHub (Feb 21, 2024):

Having the option to read a series in the order the books were released rather than the chronologically correct order is a nice feature to have in general.

@thatguy7 commented on GitHub (Feb 21, 2024): Having the option to read a series in the order the books were released rather than the chronologically correct order is a nice feature to have in general.
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@averageyogi commented on GitHub (Aug 5, 2024):

Do you have many series that don't include series sequence?

This is an issue with sub-series. Each sub-series is numbered, but they aren't numbered in the collected series.

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Here it appears that the "un"-collapse series view is sorted by "Added At" order with no option to adjust that.

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For comparison this is the ordered view inside one of the sub-series.

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And the series filtered in the Library View and sorted by Added At. It matches the Series View order.

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I understand that the Series view doesn't need/shouldn't have a drop-down sort option, that's not what that view is intended for, but I think it makes much more sense for the default sort to be Publish Year instead of Added At, as is currently appears to be.

@averageyogi commented on GitHub (Aug 5, 2024): > Do you have many series that don't include series sequence? This is an issue with sub-series. Each sub-series is numbered, but they aren't numbered in the collected series. ![image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/7bb9ac6a-af16-45b1-ba7b-b757e5ea3c23) Here it appears that the "un"-collapse series view is sorted by "Added At" order with no option to adjust that. ![image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/3a509221-09a5-419b-b35f-51e254f02211) For comparison this is the ordered view inside one of the sub-series. ![image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/ef396ba1-b893-4a06-8fed-1555d63386b1) And the series filtered in the Library View and sorted by Added At. It matches the Series View order. ![image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/4bf8dbdf-9054-4a43-ad7c-ab228cab365e) I understand that the Series view doesn't need/shouldn't have a drop-down sort option, that's not what that view is intended for, but I think it makes much more sense for the default sort to be Publish Year instead of Added At, as is currently appears to be.
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@teotikalki commented on GitHub (Jan 12, 2025):

I checked a couple of my series.

I haven't got metadata completed and tidied up for a bunch of books (I've been fixing manually as I listen to each). A bunch of books that have no Publish Year are at the beginning of Honorverse. I'm fairly certain I added the whole batch at once, so I'd expect the 'added at' value to be either sequential or reverse sequential by filename... but I don't actually know if the code works that way (hash-based orderings make PERFECT sense to computers and very little to observers). Either way, I have no idea WHAT ordering is being used here or why.

I'd say that an easy first step here is to clearly notify the user what kind of sorting is happening even if they can't change it. Right now I'm frustrated and confused and a few words in the UI could solve half of that.

Secondly, I agree with @averageyogi about the preferred default sort order. If there IS a 'Publish Year' value to sort by then that would be a much more useful ordering than whatever opaquely derived ordering we're seeing now.

@teotikalki commented on GitHub (Jan 12, 2025): I checked a couple of my series. I haven't got metadata completed and tidied up for a bunch of books (I've been fixing manually as I listen to each). A bunch of books that have no Publish Year are at the beginning of Honorverse. I'm fairly certain I added the whole batch at once, so I'd expect the 'added at' value to be either sequential or reverse sequential by filename... but I don't actually know if the code works that way (hash-based orderings make PERFECT sense to computers and very little to observers). Either way, I have no idea WHAT ordering is being used here or why. I'd say that an easy first step here is to clearly notify the user what kind of sorting is happening even if they can't change it. Right now I'm frustrated *and* confused and a few words in the UI could solve half of that. Secondly, I agree with @averageyogi about the preferred default sort order. If there IS a 'Publish Year' value to sort by then that would be a much more useful ordering than whatever opaquely derived ordering we're seeing now.
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Reference: starred/audiobookshelf#1067